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Re: dreaming

Posted by Pat on September 08, 1997 at 22:12:44:

In Reply to: Re: dreaming posted by Phil on September 08, 1997 at 21:15:30:

: Interesting question. The answer would depend on
: whose teaching of the three selves you were
: following. In the Max Freedom Long version dreams
: would probably be seen as a place where the lower
: and upper selves could communicate and which in a
: lucid dream the middle self could also interact.
: I suppose the simple answer (though not necessarily
: the most accurate one) would be that dreams are
: the province of the lower self.

: In my own teaching I would tend to think as dreams
: being an arena when all three selves could and do
: communicate. Then again we have to consider issues
: of dreams that take place ALL the time outside of
: our daily waking consciousness.

: Phil

:
I ran accross the idea a few years back that our dreaming self is just as confused by the logic of linear events as our conscious self is by dream events. This dreaming must be pretty important to our existance if it goes on all the time and were only conscious 2/3 of the time. Phil, are you a lucid dreamer? What do you think our conscious self should do with that 1/3 of a day's rest we give it each day? Pat

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More on Dreaming Phil 10:22:20 9/21/97 (2)
- Gurdjieff Defrag Pat 14:10:37 11/07/97 (0)
- Re: More on Dreaming Susan 20:57:53 10/23/97 (0)

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: : : Interesting question. The answer would depend on : : whose teaching of the three selves you were : : following. In the Max Freedom Long version dreams : : would probably be seen as a place where the lower : : and upper selves could communicate and which in a : : lucid dream the middle self could also interact. : : I suppose the simple answer (though not necessarily : : the most accurate one) would be that dreams are : : the province of the lower self. : : In my own teaching I would tend to think as dreams : : being an arena when all three selves could and do : : communicate. Then again we have to consider issues : : of dreams that take place ALL the time outside of : : our daily waking consciousness. : : Phil : : : I ran accross the idea a few years back that our dreaming self is just as confused by the logic of linear events as our conscious self is by dream events. This dreaming must be pretty important to our existance if it goes on all the time and were only conscious 2/3 of the time. Phil, are you a lucid dreamer? What do you think our conscious self should do with that 1/3 of a day's rest we give it each day? Pat