Posted by Mary on August 11, 1997 at 14:16:42:
In Reply to: Re: "Huna" is not a Hawaiian "religion" posted by Tery on July 28, 1997 at 06:34:49:
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: : Aloha kakou,
: : I wholeheartedly support the study of Hawaiian spiritual systems - the Hawaiian people are beautiful, loving, generous people who have a whole lot to teach our planet.
: : I apologize in advance for offending anyone here, but .......
: : You will never find a Hawaiian calling their spiritual system "huna," which merely means "hidden." Their spiritual beliefs were/are completely woven into the fabric of their lives, and there is no Hawaiian word for their religion or their religious practices. "Huna" as a religion is a totally haole ("foreign") construct, originally popularized by Mr. Long.
: : Also, beware of wolves in sheep's clothing. There are a lot of people around claiming first-hand knowledge of "Huna" and claiming to have been trained by "Kahunas" (which just means "expert" - there are MANY types of kahunas). There is a lot of money these days in teaching about "huna," which very few (if any) Hawaiians will do. Serge King, for example, was NEVER trained by a bonafide Hawaiian spiritual leader. It is my understanding from a respected Hawaiian kupuna (elder) that he is under general kapu for continuing to make that claim. And, yes, I have taken a week-long course from him on Kauai. His material is OK, but I have my doubts about it's origin. You can only truly learn about Hawaiian spirituality from the 'aina herself (unfortunately).
: : Learn about Hawaiian spirituality from HAWAIIAN sources, not from haole interpretations of Hawaiian material. I've finally started doing that, and it DOES make a BIG difference. There is a lot good material available by mail from Hawaii. I would be glad to post a reading list and sources for the material if anyone is interested.
: : I love the 'aina with all my heart - I hate to see all of the garbage that's running around being passed off as "Huna."
: : A me ke aloha pumehana,
: : Bill Taylor
: Aloha!
: Thank you, Bill, for your comments on Huna. It is always good to get a different perspective on things, especially something as apparently elusive as The Real Huna -- which is a misnomer in itself since, as you point out, the Hawaiians didn't use the term ;=)
: Personally, I'm not convinced there is any one "real Huna," unless it's Max Long's system, and only then because he invented the system and initiated the use of the word to describe it. As for native Hawaiian practices, I suspect that one will find as many variations as there are practitioners. Personally, I like Serge King's system because it fits in well with my long-held beliefs (I am a long-time fan of the Seth Material) and, for me, it works. To each his own.
: Having said that, I applaud your efforts at ferreting out the truth to your own satisfaction. I hope you will consider posting what you discover because I would certainly be interested in reading it.
: Tery
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Bill,
I for one do not understand how you could call Serge Kahili King a "wolf in sheeps clothing." I have worked with his courses and my life has changed so much for the better in so many ways. The lessons and teachings I have learned from Serge and Aloha International have brought me out of dispair, hopelessness and disease back to a place of love and healing. How a man who gives so much of himself to others can be under general Kapu is beyond me. I understand there are different teachings, and to each his own, but to call names to take away from one teaching so as to say yours is the only true Hawaiian way is not in the spiritual realm I work with. Who is it that decides who a true Hawaiian Spiritual Leader is? I believe God has a hand in all the true spiritual teachings be them from someone born in Hawaii or someone who came to Hawaii to learn and then to teach. I know you have every right to your opinion, but just because a teaching doesn't work for you, doesn't make it "garbage" for others.
With Aloha for all teachings
Mary